# 说说英语单词的词义 **URL:** \ **Category:** 词典及语言学习交流\ **Tags:** 词汇\ **Created:** [2025 年5 月 29 日 14:30 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198 "2025-05-29T14:30:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 09:29 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/105 "2025-06-14T09:29:01Z")
AI现有某些知识库的不完整或缺失是可以随时弥补的，大语言模型可以定向训练跟语料投喂。 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 10:42 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/108 "2025-06-14T10:42:38Z")
![Screenshot_2025_0614_184133](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/8/d8a624bcc140a017e8acec8d817f1ad4d5e0fc32.jpeg) here u r ---
**Author:** ![aamgreen](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@aamgreen](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/aamgreen)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 10:50 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/110 "2025-06-14T10:50:32Z")
全信AI 肯定是不行的 而且校核还要逐字进行才行 ---
**Author:** ![aamgreen](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@aamgreen](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/aamgreen)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 10:54 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/112 "2025-06-14T10:54:46Z")
全部OED有几十万单词 其实完全没必要的 如果翻译 可以翻译常用的10万以内的词即可 如果除去派生 估计在5万左右 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:04 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/113 "2025-06-14T11:04:12Z")
没有可靠的古英语权典，我无法对此翻译结果做评判，只能说目前的大语言模型对自然语言的理解已非常令人惊艳，虽难称完美（实际上就算公认的翻译大家们的作品谁又能保证不出差池），总体翻译质量相较之前已经有了质的飞跃，流畅度跟准确度已经接近甚至超过专业人工翻译，以前被人诟病机翻痕迹已经很少。加上AI的技术日新月异，个人认为译界所追求的信雅达/对等翻译（排除文化背景带来的认知差异）之至高境界是可以实现的。 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:08 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/115 "2025-06-14T11:08:25Z")
其实例OED例句只需翻译近现代部分即可，很多义项在使用过程中早已废弃，除了极少数的语言研究者，一般人很难也不会对词汇的上古用法感兴趣。 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:14 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/116 "2025-06-14T11:14:02Z")
beld系bold变体从何处可以查得? ---
**Author:** ![aamgreen](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@aamgreen](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/aamgreen)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:15 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/117 "2025-06-14T11:15:50Z")
我在翻译OED单词的时候 选收义项的原则是 孤立的废弃义不收 较早的废弃义 比如说例句只有1700年以前的 其他的废弃义 如果是有别的词义有关联 也会收 除此之外 其他词义全收 ---
**Author:** ![aamgreen](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@aamgreen](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/aamgreen)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:18 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/119 "2025-06-14T11:18:02Z")
![2025_06_14_19_17_19_PicDlg_1](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/0/f/0f5edb46ecf4a62266b78b6850875abfddd922a6.png) 是不是这个 ---
**Author:** ![aamgreen](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@aamgreen](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/aamgreen)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:19 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/120 "2025-06-14T11:19:29Z")
对于OED修订过的词条 我选收的例句主要1990年以来的 在此之前的 不太喜欢 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:25 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/121 "2025-06-14T11:25:38Z")
人工干预后的修正结果，仅用DS的深度思考。 ![Screenshot_2025_0614_192328](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/9/6/960daadbe651197e805602db0d2055cefbf1932d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:39 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/123 "2025-06-14T11:39:46Z")
也许你是对的，AI也只能在被人类投喂的现有知识体系中去理解人类语言，所以像这类OED都未能收入的变体之词义有理解上的问题也是情有可原。人类学术可以争鸣，机器智慧也一样。 ---
**Author:** ![aamgreen](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/d9b06d/32.png) [@aamgreen](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/aamgreen)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 11:53 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/127 "2025-06-14T11:53:46Z")
OE的 偶尔参考一下 还是可以的 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 12:16 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/128 "2025-06-14T12:16:42Z")
第二次人工干预的结果，供参考。 ![Screenshot_2025_0614_200506](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/c/e/ce5c1a1f8c1c868ec5bdd0468c91f437031827d9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 13:17 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/132 "2025-06-14T13:17:49Z")
汝之考证精神真值得吾辈钦佩，我再用DS试一下 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 13:31 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/133 "2025-06-14T13:31:12Z")
个人觉得之前的翻译已经颇为合理，继续质疑或追问恐引发AI的幻觉或癔症，现行AI奖励机制导致的迎合用户倾向有可能逼良为娼。 ![Screenshot_2025_0614_212623](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/a/dacbdda2a085fc6b81df58c6d3de0bc31ef970bd.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 13:44 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/136 "2025-06-14T13:44:25Z")
越来越学术了，你能提供这句诗的出处吗？我提交给AI，看它如何分析。 ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 13:57 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/139 "2025-06-14T13:57:58Z")
![Screenshot_2025_0614_215240](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/b/8/b844265f8bb2e7a5b2910e503f20bc983029423d.jpeg) now that u v given the exact source of the verse, the AI will then track down to the bottom accordingly hence the translation will be more satisfactory, what do you think? P.S: adding the translation of the OED-related paragraph for Cursor Mundi on Wikipedia. ![Screenshot_2025_0614_220230](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/b/f/bf5372461b2b49ca66ef733603fa45bb5a8fc019.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 14:12 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/141 "2025-06-14T14:12:26Z")
这个只能由深耕于古英语研究领域，且有宗教学/神学学识之士去判断了，要不我再质询一下DS? ---
**Author:** ![fuzzygz](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fuzzygz](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/fuzzygz)\ **Post date:** [2025 年6 月 14 日 14:22 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198/143 "2025-06-14T14:22:31Z")
不管如何，deepseek在它现有的知识库里，引经据典地瞬间做出应对的翻译方案已经让人感到惊艳，这是以前的机器翻译难以望其项背的。 [上一页](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198.md?page=4) [下一页](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/39198.md?page=6)