# ODE3优于ODE2吗?

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**Created:** [2024 年12 月 5 日 02:07 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/34587 "2024-12-05T02:07:09Z")\
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我一般使用的是ODE3(配新牛津的汉译那种).但有时发现,ODE2的解释好像更容易让人深入理解一点.试举一例:

 ![image](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/5/f51229ae64d602369b84ef09d295f523f3eba006.png)  
 ![image](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/4/1/4153bda321fbcff589da9850d0952f8d7e500d78.png)  
新牛津的解释强调了为获利而插手,而ODE3并没有直接强调这一点.

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我查了下别的几个词典，muscle (in)应该强调的是强力介入，没有强调为了获利。当然了新牛津v2里也用了typically。  
AHD: muscle v.intr: to make one’s way by or as if by force  
MWU: muscle intr.v. 1b: to overcome opposition by force – usually used with in  
OED:muscle v. 2.3 intr. slang. to intrude into the bussiness, sphere of influence, etc., of another or others, esp. by force; to enter forcibly or uninvited. With in (on), into.

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MW now:  
to use force or influence in a way that is wrong or unwanted in order to become involved in something for selfish reasons —usually + _on_

Macquarie Dictionary:  
(sometimes followed by on) to force one’s way in, especially by violent means, trickery, or in the face of hostility, in order to obtain a share of something.

Colins Cobuild:  
If someone muscles in on something, they force their way into a situation where they have no right to be and where they are not welcome, in order to gain some advantage for themselves. [disapproval]

这几本的解释感觉比较细致，总结了这几个点看对不对：

1. 介入方在物理或者非物理力量(力量、能力、经济实力、影响力等)方面应该有相对优势，才能做到force into
2. 介入的方式粗暴，不够光明正大或者不受欢迎
3. 介入的目的是出于私心，获得本不该有的份额(包括知情权等抽象的东西，也不是说把什么东西全拿走独占)，可以说是获利，但未必是直接的经济利益。
4. 用于贬义