# Give a dog a bad name and hang him **URL:** \ **Category:** 词典及语言学习交流\ **Created:** [2023 年10 月 19 日 13:25 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169 "2023-10-19T13:25:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
作者： ![eudic](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@eudic](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/eudic)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 13:25 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/1 "2023-10-19T13:25:02Z")
give a dog a bad name and hang him ![image](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/uploads/default/original/3X/f/7/f7dccbf6cce5ae1f8da456ad41bc4875b6718401.jpeg) 大家覺得這個習語怎麼翻譯比較好？有兩個參考， **不過我不是想發起選擇題，而是希望大佬說說自己會怎麼翻譯這句話** 🤪 ODE+新牛津 > proverb it’s very difficult to lose a bad reputation, even if it’s unjustified. 欲加之罪，何患无辞；人言可畏 牛津習語 > when a person already has a bad reputation, it is difficult to change it because others will continue to blame or suspect him/her 一朝犯错，终身受迫；名誉一毁，万难追回 ---
作者： ![开心最重要](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/%E5%BC%80/8e7dd6/32.png) [@开心最重要](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/%E5%BC%80%E5%BF%83%E6%9C%80%E9%87%8D%E8%A6%81)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 14:14 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/2 "2023-10-19T14:14:12Z")
个人浅见，“降罪于某人，给某人泼脏水”。 然后某人就“跳进黄河洗不清了”。 ---
作者： ![eudic](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@eudic](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/eudic)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 15:08 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/3 "2023-10-19T15:08:17Z")
降罪、潑臟水是哪裡來的呢🤔 想討論這個，是因為我看到英文解釋並沒有說一開始的壞名聲是無辜的，但中文裡除了牛津習語，很多都翻譯為「欲加之罪 何患無辭」之類的話，讓人覺得一開始就是被陷害的。 我的理解是這個人本來就聲名狼藉（這個壞名聲並不一定是假的），所以傳言他幹了什麼壞事大家都會相信，很難洗脫壞名聲 ---
作者： ![Su6i](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Su6i](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/Su6i)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 15:37 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/4 "2023-10-19T15:37:23Z")
wikipedia 解释 请参考 > **[Give a dog a bad name and hang him](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Give_a_dog_a_bad_name_and_hang_him)** > > Give a dog a bad name and hang him is an English proverb. Its meaning is that if a person's reputation has been besmirched, then he will suffer difficulty and hardship. A similar proverb is he that has an ill name is half hanged. > The proverb dates back to the 18th century or before. In 1706, John Stevens recorded it as "Give a Dog an ill name and his work is done". In 1721, James Kelly had it as a Scottish proverb – "Give a Dog an ill Name, and he'll soon be hanged. Spoken of those who raise... ---
作者： ![eudic](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@eudic](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/eudic)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 16:04 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/5 "2023-10-19T16:04:28Z")
仁兄覺得besmirched的名聲是他自己得來的，還是別人潑的髒水？查了一下這應該是一個兩者皆可的詞。不知你會如何翻譯 🤪 總感覺漢語博大精深，應該有對應話來說的，無奈文化水平不高，想不到 😁 ---
作者： ![Su6i](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Su6i](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/Su6i)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 16:16 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/6 "2023-10-19T16:16:30Z")
个人拙见，仅从wikipedia的解释和引用出处来看，这话初始用来强调污名化别人，确实是欲加之罪。随着语言的演变和发展，现代用法 **可能** 有所变化，（我并未深入搜索相关语料）并不强调泼脏水，只是用来强调坏名声很难洗白，是不是确有其事，并不强调，侧重点不同。见笑。 ---
作者： ![eudic](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/77aa72/32.png) [@eudic](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/eudic)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 16:18 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/7 "2023-10-19T16:18:35Z")
> The observation is due to negativity bias – that people are apt to think poorly of others on weak evidence. This is then reinforced by confirmation bias as people give more weight to evidence that supports a preconception than evidence which contradicts it. 個人感覺這個習語側重點在此，不知道中文有沒有簡潔優美的對應 ---
作者： ![Su6i](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Su6i](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/Su6i)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 19 日 16:24 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/8 "2023-10-19T16:24:01Z")
这需要一个中文学者或者资深爱好者来解答了，不在我的能力范围之内，见笑了 🤣 ---
作者： ![开心最重要](https://forumcdn.freemdict.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/%E5%BC%80/8e7dd6/32.png) [@开心最重要](https://forum.freemdict.com/u/%E5%BC%80%E5%BF%83%E6%9C%80%E9%87%8D%E8%A6%81)\ 发布日期： [2023 年10 月 20 日 00:58 UTC](https://forum.freemdict.com/t/topic/24169/9 "2023-10-20T00:58:03Z")
我认为哪种理解都对，因为词典都没有说明一开始名声是好的还是坏的，前置条件可能不重要，应该交代了结果有判重的意味，一开始可能是有嫌疑。